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Poll: Do you think there is gender discrimination when it comes to receiving money from clients? Thread poster: ProZ.com Staff
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Do you think there is gender discrimination when it comes to receiving money from clients?".
This poll was originally submitted by Natalia Pedrosa. View the poll results »
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EvaVer (X) 
Local time: 15:26
Czech to French
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| Not where I live | Oct 11, 2018 |
But I realize it may be the case in certain countries.
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| I have no idea ... | Oct 11, 2018 |
... since I have never translated/done business incognito as a man
Approx. 95% of potential clients do not pay my rates, but I think my male colleagues who don't charge overly low rates experience the same.
By the way, I have heard that a double last name in the Netherlands (indicating I am a married woman) could cause clients not to think as highly/seriously about my business, but I have never encountere... See more ... since I have never translated/done business incognito as a man
Approx. 95% of potential clients do not pay my rates, but I think my male colleagues who don't charge overly low rates experience the same.
By the way, I have heard that a double last name in the Netherlands (indicating I am a married woman) could cause clients not to think as highly/seriously about my business, but I have never encountered this in practice either. ▲ Collapse
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It never crossed my mind! Actually if we reason like this does it mean that clients who pay promptly are feminists? I have a few clients who pay the day after my invoice is received but I don’t think they are vowed to achieve gender equality, they are just good payers…
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neilmac
Spain
Local time: 15:26
Spanish to English
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I can imagine that someone somewhere is thinking (maybe even unconsciously) "we can pay her later, she's just a girl/woman...". But I don't think it's widespread, at least not among my clients.
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Liena Vijupe
Latvia
Local time: 16:26
Member (2014)
French to Latvian
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| Never thought about it | Oct 11, 2018 |
I don't usually have trouble receiving payments and the few times I've had it was mostly due to bad payment practices on the part of the client, I assume. I invoice in the name of my company, so people processing payments usually wouldn't know where it goes anyway unless they're the same who have been in touch with me about jobs. I find it hard to imagine anybody would select payments based on the gender of beneficiary instead of amount or due date, although anything is possible.
If... See more I don't usually have trouble receiving payments and the few times I've had it was mostly due to bad payment practices on the part of the client, I assume. I invoice in the name of my company, so people processing payments usually wouldn't know where it goes anyway unless they're the same who have been in touch with me about jobs. I find it hard to imagine anybody would select payments based on the gender of beneficiary instead of amount or due date, although anything is possible.
If there is any gender discrimination it's rather in selecting translators and negotiating rates, but then again I wouldn't know because nobody has ever said my rates are too high for a woman, they just don't pick me or try to get lower rates. I probably receive more offers related to beauty products than technical translations, but I also don't work in those fields, so again – I wouldn't know. ▲ Collapse
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Ana Vozone
Local time: 14:26
Member (2010)
English to Portuguese
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Please, let us not create a new type of client segmentation...
Let us stick with the simple "good payer"/"bad payer" distinction, as mentioned by Teresa ... Really!
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| Pesos vs. Libras (Sterling) | Oct 11, 2018 |
Yes, I think there is a male discrimination. As far as I have been told, invoices in Sterling (female noun in Spanish) are often paid sooner than invoices in Pesos (male noun in Spanish).
Good luck!
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Ben_ (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:26
German to English
The majority of the clients/PMs I have dealt with have been women and I've never felt I've been treated any differently because I am a man, the idea of that happening would never occur to me.
I did get one (male) client approach me asking me to do sports translations once though even though that's not listed anywhere in my profile, but that's probably more to do with the fact my profile picture was taken in a stadium than anything to do with my gender per se.
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Most of them don't even practise quality discrimination
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Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 09:26
Spanish to English
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I do not have even anecdotal evidence to go on here, but I can well imagine agencies adopting the attitude that Neilmac has indicated and, on the other side, women being more inclined to be gentle and diplomatic in dealing with delinquent payers.
This dynamic could plausibly create a feedback loop leading to discrimination against women in terms of prioritizing payments. After all, it is only human nature to first placate those who are most likely to cause one problems....
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Chié_JP
Japan
Local time: 22:26
Member (2013)
English to Japanese
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Some countries suffer with social or sexual discrimination and it is inevitably reflected into thoughts of the people who work in that area. I experienced frequent slow or non payment issue from specific countries - and I strongly suspect it existed because the most number of issues came from such "developing " countries without sexual equality. Being persistent and pushy is the only key to receiving payment and everyone know female human being is less good at yelling or the proud sort of speaki... See more Some countries suffer with social or sexual discrimination and it is inevitably reflected into thoughts of the people who work in that area. I experienced frequent slow or non payment issue from specific countries - and I strongly suspect it existed because the most number of issues came from such "developing " countries without sexual equality. Being persistent and pushy is the only key to receiving payment and everyone know female human being is less good at yelling or the proud sort of speaking - you are being licked.
I have used three platforms including ProZ so far, and ProZ was the only one who generated serious non payment issue.
Maybe it is just the number of agencies are large but maybe ProZ staff is being too generous to non-payers. Clients from the other two pays on time, it is always ProZ agency who ignore invoice and email reminder. What I hate the most is I have to yell instead of being polite and calm because of ProZ agency.
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Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 10:26
Member (2014)
English to Portuguese
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This is ridiculous. Please do not "invade" the Quick Polls with this type of biased statements.
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| Er, hello... | Oct 11, 2018 |
Mario Freitas wrote:
This is ridiculous. Please do not "invade" the Quick Polls with this type of biased statements.
It was just a question, not the great feminazi takeover...
[Edited at 2018-10-11 18:16 GMT]
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Rebecca Garber
Local time: 09:26
Member (2005)
German to English
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| I have no idea | Oct 11, 2018 |
I don't even know where I would start trying to figure this out.
I do the job; I send in the invoice; they send me the money according to the terms we have agreed upon, usually 30 days from invoice.
I'm not sure how getting paid according to an industry standard would vary depending on my gender or the clients'.
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