Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
older woman who dresses too young for her age
English answer:
mutton dressed as lamb
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Miriam300
Sep 21, 2009 21:13
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English term
how do you call an older woman that dresses too young for her age
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I am looking for a slightly derogatory or fun-making word / short phrase for an older woman who dresses (and usually behaves) too young for her age. In my source (Polish) language this particular phrase is trasnalted literally would mean 'old fart babe'. Ideally this should be a more or less fixed phrase. I could be wrong and for the sake of giving an example, if I were looking how to name an older woman who often goes to clubs to score with a much younger man I could call her a cougar (although I can't remember where I came across it - maybe Proz?). This type of analogy would be perfect. The term is to be used in an internal classification of consumers for an FMCG product, therefore there is not much of a context really. Also, no definition or full description is given. Anyone?
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| 4 +15 | Mutton dressed as lamb |
Miriam300
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| 3 +3 | teen granny |
Mark Nathan
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| 4 | saber tooth |
sirgay (X)
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| 4 | Cougar |
Gary D
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| 4 -1 | an aging debutante |
Michael Beijer
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Sep 21, 2009 21:28: Tony M changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Sep 21, 2009 23:25: Cilian O'Tuama changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Sep 27, 2009 11:04: Marek Daroszewski (MrMarDar) Created KOG entry
Sep 27, 2009 19:00: Miriam300 changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/72800">Marek Daroszewski (MrMarDar)'s</a> old entry - "older woman who dresses too young for her age"" to ""mutton dressed as lamb""
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Mutton dressed as lamb
Idiom Definitions for 'Mutton dressed as lamb'
Mutton dressed as lamb is term for middle-aged or elderly people trying to look younger.
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/mutton dressed ...
....is this what you had in mind? or something more original?
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Mutton dressed as lamb is term for middle-aged or elderly people trying to look younger.
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/mutton dressed ...
....is this what you had in mind? or something more original?
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lorenab23
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thanks:-)
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Tony M
: Yup, and we used also to say "mutton dressed up as lamb"; the FR thought it was hysterical when I explained this idiom to them!
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thank you.
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Carol Gullidge
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thanks.
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Samantha Payn
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Jack Doughty
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Phillippa May Bennett
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Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
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Shera Lyn Parpia
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Simon Mac
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carly kelly
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Patricia Townshend (X)
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kmtext
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Rolf Keiser
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sirgay (X)
: this can hardly be used for an FMCG product
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yes maybe, but that is the expression normally used for this type of older woman.not even sure what an FMCG product is.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I would like to thank all contributors and participatns for their input. This seems to be best option. "
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Michael Beijer
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an aging debutante
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Example sentence:
The aging debutante peered at the faded portraits lining the walls of her entrance hall.
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Tony M
: Sorry, but I think that's really a quite different idiom / Was once a pretty young girl, but has now 'gone off'; doesn't suggest she deliberately tries to dress in such a way as to look younger than her age
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In which way is it quite a different idiom, I wonder.
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teen granny
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Judith Hehir
: Straight out of the urban dictionary.
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Polangmar
: Much better fits the context.
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Henry Schroeder
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sirgay (X)
: this can hardly be used for an FMCG product
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It's not going to be on the label! - Asker says it is part of an internal classification.
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saber tooth
saber tooth
a woman usually in her fifties dating a man 20+ years her junior, often considered a cougar past her prime.
That saber tooth is on the prowl.
That saber tooth has gone extinct but she just doesn't know it yet.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=saber tooth
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also puma
puma
A woman who is not quite old enough to be a cougar, but still likes to date/mate with younger men.
Dating a puma wasn't so bad, Bob reflected. After all, the sex was great and she never minded picking up the tab when they went out on the weekend.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puma
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if the term is to be used in an internal classification of consumers for an FMCG product
it must NOT be TOO derogatory...
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a cradle robber / snatcher - is probably a bit too derogatory
Cradle robber or cradle snatcher—a man (primarily, but could refer to a woman) involved with a much younger individual.
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and here is their classification according to age:
jaguar
In the lexicon of older women seeking younger men, a jaguar is 50 and over, where the cougar is in their 40s, and the puma under 40. Jaguars tend to be financially stable and are only looking for sex from their 20 something prey.
e.g. I was eaten by a jaguar last night.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=older women
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i think the fact that they are all felines addresses their appearance and predatory behaviour...
it's difficult to tell how old a cat is straightaway it's only their teeth and claws that give them away...
a woman usually in her fifties dating a man 20+ years her junior, often considered a cougar past her prime.
That saber tooth is on the prowl.
That saber tooth has gone extinct but she just doesn't know it yet.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=saber tooth
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also puma
puma
A woman who is not quite old enough to be a cougar, but still likes to date/mate with younger men.
Dating a puma wasn't so bad, Bob reflected. After all, the sex was great and she never minded picking up the tab when they went out on the weekend.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puma
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if the term is to be used in an internal classification of consumers for an FMCG product
it must NOT be TOO derogatory...
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a cradle robber / snatcher - is probably a bit too derogatory
Cradle robber or cradle snatcher—a man (primarily, but could refer to a woman) involved with a much younger individual.
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and here is their classification according to age:
jaguar
In the lexicon of older women seeking younger men, a jaguar is 50 and over, where the cougar is in their 40s, and the puma under 40. Jaguars tend to be financially stable and are only looking for sex from their 20 something prey.
e.g. I was eaten by a jaguar last night.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=older women
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i think the fact that they are all felines addresses their appearance and predatory behaviour...
it's difficult to tell how old a cat is straightaway it's only their teeth and claws that give them away...
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Cilian O'Tuama
: but this doesn't address the dress/behaviour aspect
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asker: if I were looking how to name an older woman who often goes to clubs to score with a much younger man I could call her a cougar (although I can't remember where I came across it - maybe Proz?). This type of analogy would be perfect.
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Tony M
: I agree with Cilian: this is more about a woman who refuses to 'dress her age', and sometimes ends up looking ridiculous; may not be about dating at all
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i think you need to read the whole question
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Cougar
Cougar, Even if a woman is not playing around, but dresses up with the intention to flirt she is called a Cougar.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Cougar-Women?-Older-Women-Should-I...
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MILF is also popular among young people these days, "Mother I (would) love to F**k"
Generally is a pointer to a older mum, who looks and dresses fantastically.
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A cougar is not all about Dating, It is about the look of a 40+ woman and the power to feel young and mix in a younger persons world, Which is what a woman who is "Mutton dressed up as lamb" does
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On the point.. who are we to judge who looks ridiculous? If a woman wishes to dress up by dressing down, then so be it, (Men have been doing it for Years)she is still a cougar... even if she doesn't go out on a date, she is playing the part of one.
Looks like a Cougar, smells like a cougar, dresses like a cougar, Goes to places where younger people hang out... then she is a Cougar. I know plenty of Cougars who just like to feel young and look good..
http://ezinearticles.com/?Cougar-Women?-Older-Women-Should-I...
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MILF is also popular among young people these days, "Mother I (would) love to F**k"
Generally is a pointer to a older mum, who looks and dresses fantastically.
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://afrocityblog.f...
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A cougar is not all about Dating, It is about the look of a 40+ woman and the power to feel young and mix in a younger persons world, Which is what a woman who is "Mutton dressed up as lamb" does
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On the point.. who are we to judge who looks ridiculous? If a woman wishes to dress up by dressing down, then so be it, (Men have been doing it for Years)she is still a cougar... even if she doesn't go out on a date, she is playing the part of one.
Looks like a Cougar, smells like a cougar, dresses like a cougar, Goes to places where younger people hang out... then she is a Cougar. I know plenty of Cougars who just like to feel young and look good..
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Tony M
: I agree with Cilian: this is more about a woman who refuses to 'dress her age', and sometimes ends up looking ridiculous; may not be about dating at all; and I think MILF is quite the wrong way round
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A cougar is not all about Dating, It is about the look of a 40+ woman and the power to feel young and mix in a younger persons world, Which is what a woman who is "Mutton dressed up as lamb" does
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sirgay (X)
: the asker already knew this word and was looking for its analogies
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Discussion
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A young man who chases older women is called a Granny Grinder.