die hits in google sollten Aufschluß darüber geben, ob dies in Deinen Kontext paßt.

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Ich glaube, daß Cécile Selbstverständnis und Selbstverständlichkeit durcheinander gebracht hat.

if you're sure that 'Notwendigkeit des Bestehens' is meant. But why didn't they use Selbstverständlichkeit instead?

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Note added at 2003-03-18 13:31:12 (GMT)
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to make it stronger, you could use \"sheer indispensability\"

The notion of inevitability inherent in this movement

the [perceived] quintessential indispensibility of the movement

Kurz und buendig...

Umformulierung erforderlich. Hauptwörter wie sie im deutschen verwendet werden wirken sehr schwerfällig im englischen.

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Note added at 2003-03-19 20:25:54 (GMT)
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3/19

Dear Maureen,



I ask you to forgive me for lashing out at you:

\"disagree (to you suggestion)

For someone who is so condescending and judgemental, your suggestion does not exactly lift this exercise to new pinnacles of linguistics. \'Umformuliering erforderlich\' indeed!\"



It was rude and unpolished and I want to elaborate on my grounds for making such a comment.

I am the author of \'My 10 commandments in the KudoZ arena\' and \'Confessions of a point grabber\' (see Forums) and I have been an active KudoZer since July 2000 so I have given this field quite a lot of thought, leading me to make my voice heard if someone does what I feel is the wrong behaviour.



The worst comment I know in this field is \'Sorry\', as a rule used by native speakers to non-natives. It\'s a condescending comment being interpreted as \"Don\'t you (non-natives) dare to encroach on territory where you really should not be allowed to move at all\". This attitude has been scolded by many, including me, especially as many brilliant answers have been forwarded by non-natives.

Two of the worst users of this comment have actually been expelled from ProZ.com (not only because of this. Please do not misconstrue this as a threat). Many have felt that it destroys the friendly and helpful tone that dominates and should dominate this help service.

It happens that new participants believes it is up to them to comment (often infavourably) on the suggestion of others.

That is a misconception.

\'Disagree\' or \'neutral\' are intended to be used with discretion and should be acompanied by specific criticism to be useful. \'Wrong!\', \'not BE\', \'not USE\', \'Maybe, but not English to me\' does not add much.

As a disagreer one should reasonably feel obliged to produce THE superior suggestion.

You actually fulfilled that last obligation although your suggestion was not impressive, but rather confusing.



Please try to enjoy this service by making suggestions, not by commenting on others.



Best regards



Mats J C Wiman

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\"Maybe, but not English to me\" was a tease directed to Ron Stelter, a compatriot, who I figured would take it as meant.
\"Sorry\" is \"Sorry, but that doesn\'t work for me.\" It\'s intended, if anything, to soften the neutral or disagree.

"Gemeint ist die Notwendigkeit des Bestehens einer politischen Bewegung."