Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
stornoincasso, veegincasso
English translation:
unwon prize pool, final prize pool
Added to glossary by
Anne Key
Jul 11, 2005 05:48
18 yrs ago
Dutch term
stornoincasso, veegincasso
Dutch to English
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Games / Video Games / Gaming / Casino
Lottery terminology
I am currently working on a Lottery handbook translation, and am struggling with the above term.
The context is as follows:
De speelronde start altijd met a hoofdincasso. In principe wordt elk weekend een aanvullende incasso en een stornoincasso gepland. Verder wordt bij de laatste incasso's ook een veegincasso gepland.
Stornoincasso: hierop staan de loten waarvan eerdere incassopogingen in dezelfde speelronde zijn mislukt en voor heraanbieding in aanmerking komen. De mislukte incassopogingen zijn in de vorm van storneringen in de database verwerkt.
Veegincasso: de laatste incasso in a speelronde, gedraaid na de laatste aanvullende en stornoincasso. Hierop staan alle loten die om onverklaarbare reden niet in een andere incasso zijn geselecteerd en moet derhalve 0 loten bevatten.
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Pikey
The context is as follows:
De speelronde start altijd met a hoofdincasso. In principe wordt elk weekend een aanvullende incasso en een stornoincasso gepland. Verder wordt bij de laatste incasso's ook een veegincasso gepland.
Stornoincasso: hierop staan de loten waarvan eerdere incassopogingen in dezelfde speelronde zijn mislukt en voor heraanbieding in aanmerking komen. De mislukte incassopogingen zijn in de vorm van storneringen in de database verwerkt.
Veegincasso: de laatste incasso in a speelronde, gedraaid na de laatste aanvullende en stornoincasso. Hierop staan alle loten die om onverklaarbare reden niet in een andere incasso zijn geselecteerd en moet derhalve 0 loten bevatten.
All suggestions welcome - KudoZ points will be awarded within 72 hours.
Many thanks,
Pikey
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | unwon prize pool, final prize pool |
David Haymes
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| 4 | returned/failed direct debit, final direct debit |
Dave Calderhead
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| 2 | returned colelction, sweep collection |
Erik Macki
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Proposed translations
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unwon prize pool, final prize pool
The text is about the pool of money which is built up from the sum set aside for prizes. So, ISTM, the 'hoofdincasso' is the prize pool, the 'stornoincasso' is the pool of money rolled over from failed lots, i.e. the numbers which came up in the lottery did not match anyone's lottery ticket, so the money is collected to be paid out to winners of subsequent rounds who have partial matches. In that case, the 'veegincasso' is probably the pool for the final round, for all the lots left over after the other rounds, which 'wipes' out' the pool. There is undoubtedly room for improvement in what I have said.
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Erik Macki
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Works in: German to English, French to English, Dutch to English, and 3 more.
returned colelction, sweep collection
These are tough--so I think a close translation is the best solution. Based on the SAP glossaries and Van Dale, my best stab is:
stornoincasso = returned collection
veegincasso = sweep collection
stornoincasso = returned collection
veegincasso = sweep collection
10 hrs
Dave Calderhead
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returned/failed direct debit, final direct debit
as an incasso is a direct debit in (UK) English and a storno is a reverse entry, that makes the stornoincasso a reverse(d) direct debit, but is possibly a returned direct debit similar to the return collection already suggested. See first reference.
it may also be called a failed direct debit. See second reference
Maybe sweep direct debit is the veegincasso, but I think the context shows it to be a final dirct debit
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Note added at 10 hrs 56 mins (2005-07-11 16:44:49 GMT)
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fingers! that should read final direct debit
see: www.mslnet.co.uk/mandate.html
it may also be called a failed direct debit. See second reference
Maybe sweep direct debit is the veegincasso, but I think the context shows it to be a final dirct debit
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Note added at 10 hrs 56 mins (2005-07-11 16:44:49 GMT)
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fingers! that should read final direct debit
see: www.mslnet.co.uk/mandate.html
Reference:
http://www.cmc-management.com/downloads/downloads/dd_form.htm
www.waterways.org.uk/library/ archives/bulletin/2002/dec02.htm
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