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Nov 16, 2007 06:57
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French term
France
Highly qualified, flexible and punctual.
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, Vietnamese
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prégnance
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Hello everyone,
I am translating a text about the attitude of French diplomats in the Philippines. One paragraph title reads :
"Comparer ou la prégnance des représentations françaises ."
I need some suggestions as to the translation of the word "prégnance" into English since I am hesitating to translate it with "pregnancy" (despite it having another meaning than the obvious one). Your help would be much appreciated!
Nang
I am translating a text about the attitude of French diplomats in the Philippines. One paragraph title reads :
"Comparer ou la prégnance des représentations françaises ."
I need some suggestions as to the translation of the word "prégnance" into English since I am hesitating to translate it with "pregnancy" (despite it having another meaning than the obvious one). Your help would be much appreciated!
Nang
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | resonance. |
siragui
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| 4 +3 | profound effect, impact |
Zoya Shapkina
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| 4 +1 | previous discussion |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 | resonance |
siragui
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| 3 | importance |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 3 -1 | salience |
Francis MARC
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Proposed translations
4 hrs
Selected
resonance.
RC. "Impact", for me, lacks the suggestion of an effect that persists over time.
Related possibilities (less satisfying, I think): repercussions, reverberation.
Related possibilities (less satisfying, I think): repercussions, reverberation.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you so much, this is the term that works best in this particular context."
-1
26 mins
salience
Termium:
Domaine(s)
– Social Psychology
Domaine(s)
– Psychologie sociale
salience Source CORRECT
prégnance d'une attitude
Source CORRECT, SOURCE TRAD, FÉM
DEF – The quality of being
noticeable. An attitude is salient to
the degree to which it is called to a
person's attention. Source
DEF – Visibilité et conscience d'une
de ses propres attitudes. En attirant
l'attention sur une attitude, on la rend
plus apparente ou plus prégnante, ce
qui contribue à son maintien. S
Domaine(s)
– Social Psychology
Domaine(s)
– Psychologie sociale
salience Source CORRECT
prégnance d'une attitude
Source CORRECT, SOURCE TRAD, FÉM
DEF – The quality of being
noticeable. An attitude is salient to
the degree to which it is called to a
person's attention. Source
DEF – Visibilité et conscience d'une
de ses propres attitudes. En attirant
l'attention sur une attitude, on la rend
plus apparente ou plus prégnante, ce
qui contribue à son maintien. S
Note from asker:
| Thank you for taking the time to answer. |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Michaël Zamo (X)
: salience is related to pregnance but is not a bit the same idea : it lacks the notion of "strength"
30 mins
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1 hr
importance
Nom commun
prégnance /pʁe.ɡnɑ̃s/ féminin
(Psychologie) Comportement d'une organisation psychologique privilégiée (sa force, sa stabilité, sa fréquence…), parmi toutes celles possibles.
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-11-16 08:33:28 GMT)
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maybe "importance" seems a cop-out but it is much more the sort of term an English writer would use in such a context
prégnance /pʁe.ɡnɑ̃s/ féminin
(Psychologie) Comportement d'une organisation psychologique privilégiée (sa force, sa stabilité, sa fréquence…), parmi toutes celles possibles.
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-11-16 08:33:28 GMT)
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maybe "importance" seems a cop-out but it is much more the sort of term an English writer would use in such a context
Note from asker:
| thank you for your input |
3 hrs
resonance
RC. "Impact" has a similar idea, but lacks the suggestion of something that persists over time.
Along the same lines: "Reverberations" "Repercussions" (but not as good, I think).
Along the same lines: "Reverberations" "Repercussions" (but not as good, I think).
+1
3 hrs
previous discussion
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1632356
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-11-16 10:25:55 GMT)
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Comparing, or prolepsis of French representations??? Would need to have more context to determine if it's appropriate.
Prolepsis. Not to be confused with prolapsus, even as a slip of the tongue.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2007-11-16 10:25:55 GMT)
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Comparing, or prolepsis of French representations??? Would need to have more context to determine if it's appropriate.
Prolepsis. Not to be confused with prolapsus, even as a slip of the tongue.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carol Gullidge
: re yr previous discussion: perhaps pregnance rather than prolepsis, in this case?
34 mins
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+3
26 mins
Zoya Shapkina
France
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France
Traductrice assermentée, business & oth
Native in: Ukrainian , Russian
Works in: French to Russian, French to Ukrainian, English to Russian, and 5 more.
profound effect, impact
this word has no meaning of *pregnancy* in general. Here I would use its 2-nd meaning in the sphere of psychology, which is **profound effect, impact**
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Note added at 10 hrs (2007-11-16 17:24:35 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Nang. The main thing is you select the most convenient by context meaning. In my opinion they used *pregnance* in the text in order to show really long time effect of some actions. Tandis que *resonance* a le sens de l'action assez courte, comme *echo, response*
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Note added at 10 hrs (2007-11-16 17:24:35 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Nang. The main thing is you select the most convenient by context meaning. In my opinion they used *pregnance* in the text in order to show really long time effect of some actions. Tandis que *resonance* a le sens de l'action assez courte, comme *echo, response*
Note from asker:
| Thank you for your input, it is indeed the general meaning! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Michaël Zamo (X)
: yes, I think this is the meaning that has to be kept.
32 mins
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thank you Michael
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| agree |
jean-jacques alexandre
: absolutely !!
39 mins
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thank you Jean-Jacques
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| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
50 mins
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merci Gilles
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