Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
refugio
English translation:
haven
Added to glossary by
eloso (X)
Jun 14, 2008 23:50
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term
refugio
Spanish to English
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Journalism
culture, social
A description about Delta del Tigre. many "unusual"people live there... strange characters. Apart from the grammar , I feel uncertain on how to translate "refugio" here.. and "junqueros"
Refugio de gays, morada y trabajo de sacrificados junqueros, destino de maestras que viajan 6 horas diarias para enseñar río adentro, esas islas son definitivamente especiales.
my try:
A bunker/enclave to gays, a home and workplace to sacrificing junqueros (the people who collect and even weave rush plants), or a destiny to teachers that sail the river, 6 hours a day to teach. Definitely, these islands are one of a kind.
Refugio de gays, morada y trabajo de sacrificados junqueros, destino de maestras que viajan 6 horas diarias para enseñar río adentro, esas islas son definitivamente especiales.
my try:
A bunker/enclave to gays, a home and workplace to sacrificing junqueros (the people who collect and even weave rush plants), or a destiny to teachers that sail the river, 6 hours a day to teach. Definitely, these islands are one of a kind.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +15 | haven |
eloso (X)
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| 4 +3 | oasis/comfortable retreat |
Terry Burgess
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| 5 +1 | refuge |
Adriana Rubinstein
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| 4 +1 | Haven |
Yurena Sar (X)
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| 3 +1 | shelter |
Rosina Peixoto
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| 4 | Safe haven |
Francisco Domínguez Montero (X)
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| 4 | hangout |
Cecilia Gowar
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| 4 | safe haven |
mikellys
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| 3 | getaway |
David Hollywood
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Change log
Jun 15, 2008 00:04: Gloria Cifuentes Dowling changed "Language pair" from "English to Spanish" to "Spanish to English"
Jun 15, 2008 21:07: eloso (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
+15
4 mins
Selected
haven
I think it's fitting.
Peer comment(s):
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Jennifer Levey
: Yes, it fits nicely in this context.
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Thank you, mediamatrix.
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Sandra Rodriguez
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Thank you, Sandra.
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irene varela
21 mins
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Thank you, british2008.
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Cassandra Neace (X)
: my first thought
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Thank you, Cassandra.
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Terry Burgess
: After my answer, this is definitely the best one!...jajaja:-) Saludos eloso.
1 hr
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Thank you, Terry.
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Sergio Gaymer
1 hr
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Thank you, Sergio.
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Gacela20
1 hr
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Thank you, Gacela20.
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Sp-EnTranslator
2 hrs
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Thank you CloHoHo-Claudia.
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slothm
3 hrs
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Thank you, slothm.
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David Hollywood
: very nice :)
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Thank you, David.
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kjmcguire
7 hrs
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Thank you, Kelly.
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Egmont
10 hrs
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Thank you, AVRVM.
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Marina56
: ok
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Thank you, Marina.
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Noni Gilbert Riley
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Thank you, aceavila.
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Henry Hinds
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Thank you, Henry.
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much!!"
+1
5 mins
Rosina Peixoto
Uruguay
Uruguay
Native in Spanish
Uruguay
Traductora Pública/Certified Translator
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
shelter
for gays.
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-06-14 23:56:15 GMT)
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But gathered at Ruth’s House, a 10-bed emergency shelter for gay homeless youths here in east Detroit, they all said that for the first time they felt safe. ...
www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/us/17homeless.html?_
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Note added at 7 mins (2008-06-14 23:58:07 GMT)
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Hay una película con ese nombre:
8 Feb 2008 ... "Shelter" es un drama gay dirigido y escrito por Jonah Markowitz. Narra la historia de amor de Zach (Trevor Wright) y Shaun (Brad Rowe) en las ...
www.esta2.com/2008/02/08/shelter-el-drama-gay-surfista
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But gathered at Ruth’s House, a 10-bed emergency shelter for gay homeless youths here in east Detroit, they all said that for the first time they felt safe. ...
www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/us/17homeless.html?_
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Note added at 7 mins (2008-06-14 23:58:07 GMT)
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Hay una película con ese nombre:
8 Feb 2008 ... "Shelter" es un drama gay dirigido y escrito por Jonah Markowitz. Narra la historia de amor de Zach (Trevor Wright) y Shaun (Brad Rowe) en las ...
www.esta2.com/2008/02/08/shelter-el-drama-gay-surfista
Note from asker:
| thank you very much, Rosina. |
+1
36 mins
Adriana Rubinstein
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Argentina
Translating Since 1984
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
refuge
The translation for shelter is albergue
bunker no es un refugio
refugio es un lugar donde se buscar protección
bunker no es un refugio
refugio es un lugar donde se buscar protección
Reference:
http://www.psa91.com/citiesofrefuge.htm
http://www.expressgaynews.com/2006/11-24/news/localnews/mcc.cfm
Note from asker:
| el uso en español de de "refugio" aqui no es el mas feliz, en el sentido de que no buscan proteccion...ni alojamiento... es mas bien la idea de "retiro", de "alejarse de todo", "estar con los pares"...no se si soy clara |
+3
54 mins
Terry Burgess
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Mexico
I place Quality and Accuracy above speed
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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2
oasis/comfortable retreat
Hi Caro.
Whereas I agree with eloso and Rosina, though more with eloso, I feel that although gay people are still much maligned everywhere, things are changing and even in Argentina, WE no longer [I hope] need to seek "refuge or safe haven". The sense I get from this is that it focuses far more on "a place of comfort or tranquility or a release from the mundane social prejudices" where people sadly labelled as "different" can go, perhaps enjoy each others' company, and spend some time in comfort and without the customary trials and tribulations.
That's my take on it. Hope this helps.
Luck:-)
Whereas I agree with eloso and Rosina, though more with eloso, I feel that although gay people are still much maligned everywhere, things are changing and even in Argentina, WE no longer [I hope] need to seek "refuge or safe haven". The sense I get from this is that it focuses far more on "a place of comfort or tranquility or a release from the mundane social prejudices" where people sadly labelled as "different" can go, perhaps enjoy each others' company, and spend some time in comfort and without the customary trials and tribulations.
That's my take on it. Hope this helps.
Luck:-)
Peer comment(s):
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eloso (X)
: Not a bad option!
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Thanks, Ricardo. I like it, and hope other Prozians do too. Saludos:-) Have a gorgeous weekend.
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Jaime Oriard
: Although my first take would've been shelter, I like you explanation. "Retreat" is a nice option.
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Muchísimas gracias paisa, y un gran saludo.IMHO 'shelter/refuge/bunker, etc.' negate the true facts. I believe that gay people, like me, go there because they choose to..& not by force. Hope my frankness doesn't upset u & if it does pos ni modo!
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David Hollywood
: nice rendering too Terry :) and agree with the attitude :)
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Thanks, Dave. Have a good one:-)
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+1
1 hr
Haven
I would go for haven as it suits the context as already mentioned by fellow translators.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Terry Burgess
: Then simply post an "agree" with whomever first answered using the same term:-) Saludos
19 mins
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eloso (X)
1 hr
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4 hrs
David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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27
getaway
just another option and I think it gets the idea over of being at peace and relaxing
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-06-15 04:27:34 GMT)
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without being in any way prejudicial
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-06-15 04:27:34 GMT)
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without being in any way prejudicial
8 hrs
Safe haven
A bit more common, I think; though "haven" if fine, obviously!
8 hrs
Cecilia Gowar
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
I read the Alethiometer
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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68
hangout
Creo que se refiere a un "meeting point" más que nada...
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Sorry, I do not understand your message... "hangout", as you say, is a place where somebody (or a group) spend a lot of time or live, not a place where they are looking for protection....
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Note added at 16 hrs (2008-06-15 16:12:07 GMT) Post-grading
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Sorry, I do not understand your message... "hangout", as you say, is a place where somebody (or a group) spend a lot of time or live, not a place where they are looking for protection....
Note from asker:
| haven: "the garden was a haven from the noise and bustle of the city" / "they wanted to provide safe havens for the refugges" hangout: (infml) a place where sdy spends a lot of time or where they live: "the cafe is a favorite hangout of artists" "their hangout was a grubby attic" getaway; (infml) an escape; an act of leaving somewhere quickly, usu. after committing a crime. I don't whink shelter or refuge are suitable in this context. As Terry suggested, they are not looking for protection or something like that. |
1 day 18 hrs
safe haven
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