Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
helado de escabeche
English translation:
light savoury escabeche / brine sorbet
Added to glossary by
Noni Gilbert Riley
Mar 5, 2012 19:14
12 yrs ago
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Spanish term
helado de escabeche
Spanish to English
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Food & Drink
restaurant menu
I understand helado, and I understand escabeche, but not together! This is an item from a menu, so it has to sound nice. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Milhojas de caballa con higos, gratinada y su helado de escabeche ligero
For a restaurant in Spain
Milhojas de caballa con higos, gratinada y su helado de escabeche ligero
For a restaurant in Spain
Proposed translations
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| 2 | savoury brine sorbet |
Noni Gilbert Riley
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| 4 +4 | escabeche sorbet |
Charles Davis
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| 4 | pickled ice cream |
Carol Geraldine Chua Yu
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| 4 | vinegar sorbet/ice cream |
MSuderman
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| 3 | pickle ice cream |
Rick Larg
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Mar 10, 2012 10:39: Noni Gilbert Riley Created KOG entry
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savoury brine sorbet
I'm afraid that my reaction is "yet another posey menu item", although in fact, it doesn't sound too bad! It's the "su" that always gets me.
The mackerel can take a good strong taste, as in escabeche, and it's simply being served in "iced" form, a kind of gobbet of it! Sorbet if you want that to sound better. I had octopus with moutard de meaux ice cream not along and that was gorgeous. Lucky I was with my in-laws who all thought it was spawn of the devil, so I got to eat it all. Of course, by the time it's been on the table a few minutes, it's no more than a sauce.
Brine sorbet sounded reasonably unappetizing, but a step above brine ice cream. But, to my mind, somehow, savoury at the front of it seems to save it.
Let's see what other gems we come up with!
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Note added at 25 mins (2012-03-05 19:39:48 GMT)
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We're all forgetting about that "ligero".
Although it's really light escabeche/brine, I would suggest light sorbet: it seems to scan better.
The mackerel can take a good strong taste, as in escabeche, and it's simply being served in "iced" form, a kind of gobbet of it! Sorbet if you want that to sound better. I had octopus with moutard de meaux ice cream not along and that was gorgeous. Lucky I was with my in-laws who all thought it was spawn of the devil, so I got to eat it all. Of course, by the time it's been on the table a few minutes, it's no more than a sauce.
Brine sorbet sounded reasonably unappetizing, but a step above brine ice cream. But, to my mind, somehow, savoury at the front of it seems to save it.
Let's see what other gems we come up with!
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Note added at 25 mins (2012-03-05 19:39:48 GMT)
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We're all forgetting about that "ligero".
Although it's really light escabeche/brine, I would suggest light sorbet: it seems to scan better.
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Comment: "I agree that adding the savoury seems to help! Thanks"
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pickle ice cream
To start the ball rolling.
(Branston Pickle ice cream seems to be a (UK) Google favourite. Must make for a ploughman's lunch with a difference!)
(Branston Pickle ice cream seems to be a (UK) Google favourite. Must make for a ploughman's lunch with a difference!)
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escabeche sorbet
"Frozen pickle brine" is sold and apparently appreciated in the US. However, although escabeche is sometimes translated as pickle brine, it's not quite the same thing: as well as vinegar and water it must have oil, peppercorns and bay leaves. Personally I'd be inclined to use the Spanish name.
As for "helado", it doesn't necessarily mean ice cream, and here I really don't think it is an ice cream. It's probably a kind of sorbet, and that sounds pretty good to me, so that's what I'd go for.
"helado
4. m. Bebida o alimento helado.
5. m. Refresco o sorbete de zumo de fruta, huevo, etc., en cierto grado de congelación."
http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIBusUsual?TIPO_HTML=2&TIPO...
As for "helado", it doesn't necessarily mean ice cream, and here I really don't think it is an ice cream. It's probably a kind of sorbet, and that sounds pretty good to me, so that's what I'd go for.
"helado
4. m. Bebida o alimento helado.
5. m. Refresco o sorbete de zumo de fruta, huevo, etc., en cierto grado de congelación."
http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltGUIBusUsual?TIPO_HTML=2&TIPO...
Peer comment(s):
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Noni Gilbert Riley
: Ha! Get the waiter to explain. Certainly sounds more appetizing. Perhaps give a clue by planting my current favourite of "savoury" before?!
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I admit it's a bit of cop-out, and I did find a reference to pickle brine sorbet, but having married into a Manchegan family I'm fussy about my escabeche. But I'd be happy to consider adding "savoury"! Thanks, Noni (now they'll stop calling you Ace!) :)
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Lucy Phillips
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Thanks, Lucy!
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Letredenoblesse
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Thanks, Agnes!
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Jane Martin
: although you do need to check whether it is actually ice cream or sorbet as there is a difference.
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Yes, there is, and I agree. I admit it could be an ice cream, in the spirit of Heston Blumenthal's bacon and egg ice cream. The weirder it sounds, the better, in avant garde circles. Thanks, Jane!
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pickled ice cream
"Escabeche" is basically a pickling process so I would go for pickled ice cream rather than pickle ice cream because the latter seems to refer more to ice cream with pickles.
1 day 4 hrs
vinegar sorbet/ice cream
just another possibility, using the main ingredient in escabeche. A Google search turns up quite a few hits of both options. You could also add a qualifier along the lines of "spiced vinegar sorbet" or "herb vinegar ice cream".
Reference comments
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Reference:
escabeche
For those who don't know what it means (I didn't).
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Reference:
Nothing is off-limits as far as ice-cream goes
http://www.primerahora.com/¡masde500sabores!-travesias-suple...
Si su paladar apetece una barquilla o vasito de un delicioso helado de coco, vainilla, guayaba, piña, mangó, china o limón... en la Heladería Lares lo tienen. Pero si su sentido del gusto se pone un tanto excéntrico, seguramente el variadísimo menú de este pintoresco lugar tiene una opción para complacerlo. Aquí puede probar un refrescante helado de maíz, calabaza, arroz con habichuelas, pollo, carne, pescado, cerveza, ajo o cebolla... Rete su imaginación y pida que hay.
Si su paladar apetece una barquilla o vasito de un delicioso helado de coco, vainilla, guayaba, piña, mangó, china o limón... en la Heladería Lares lo tienen. Pero si su sentido del gusto se pone un tanto excéntrico, seguramente el variadísimo menú de este pintoresco lugar tiene una opción para complacerlo. Aquí puede probar un refrescante helado de maíz, calabaza, arroz con habichuelas, pollo, carne, pescado, cerveza, ajo o cebolla... Rete su imaginación y pida que hay.
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Charles Davis
: Not to mention: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon_ice_cream
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