Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités
English translation:
items intended as collateral for payment of fines
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Susan McDonald
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objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités
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This phrase has cropped up in a writ. This part of the document is refuting the validity of a customs seizure and is quoting article 323 al. of the Code des douanes, as follows:
"Ceux qui constatent une infraction douanière ont le droit de saisir tous objets passibles de confiscation, de retenir les expéditions et tous autres documents relatifs aux objets saisis et de procéder à la retenue préventive des objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités."
It's the " objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités" bit which is causing me a headache. Are these objects that are subject to fines? I think it's more than that, though. The real problem is I'm finding it difficult to parse the sentence. Perhaps I've been looking at it for too long!
Any help would be most gratefully received.
"Ceux qui constatent une infraction douanière ont le droit de saisir tous objets passibles de confiscation, de retenir les expéditions et tous autres documents relatifs aux objets saisis et de procéder à la retenue préventive des objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités."
It's the " objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités" bit which is causing me a headache. Are these objects that are subject to fines? I think it's more than that, though. The real problem is I'm finding it difficult to parse the sentence. Perhaps I've been looking at it for too long!
Any help would be most gratefully received.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | items intended as collateral for payment of fines |
Daryo
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| 3 | Items assigned to penalties security. |
SAMBA LUC
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| 3 -1 | items intended to ensure the payment of the penalties |
Elizabeth Tamblin
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items intended as collateral for payment of fines
these items will be used as collateral - returned to the owner when fines are paid, or if the imposed fines are not paid, they will be seized as would the collateral for a loan in case of default.
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Comment: "Thanks so much for this, Daryo. Your explanation turned a light on in my head! "
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items intended to ensure the payment of the penalties
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Dennis Boyd
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Tim Webb
: Well found! But "affecté à la sûreté de" does not translate as "intended to ensure" (and, in the same doc, rétention is not really seizure, either) // I was just suggesting that the ref, although good, is not 100% reliable
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One of the definitions of 'affecter' = 'destiner', so I don't quite understand your objection, and I never mentioned 'seizure'.
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mchd
: En accord avec Tim06, cela ne reprend pas "affecté à la sureté"
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Daryo
: the basic idea is there, but it's ways too vague
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Items assigned to penalties security.
The word "assigned" is better place when it comes to securities because there is an element of coercion which is a idea behind Security Regulations
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Discussion
http://www.douane.gouv.fr/articles/a11055-lexique-du-content...
Retenue pour sûreté des pénalités
Rétention constituant une mesure conservatoire immédiate exercée en cas de constatation d'infraction douanière :
soit sur les moyens de transport et les marchandises litigieuses non passibles de confiscation, en cas d'infraction flagrante (article 378 CD), concomitamment ou postérieurement à la constatation d'infraction ;
soit sur les objets affectés à la sûreté des pénalités (article 323 CD), concomitamment à la constatation d'infraction.