Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?
French translation:
votre intention de demander à quelqu’un de votre foyer de l’acheter pour vous
Added to glossary by
Virginie Proisy
Jul 18, 2017 14:06
6 yrs ago
English term
asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?
Non-PRO
English to French
Marketing
Marketing / Market Research
Enquête produit
Chers Collègues,
Bonjour à tous. Il s'agit d'un questionnaire marketing pour une boisson pétillante.
J'en perds un peu mon latin et mon français.
Based on the information above, which statement below best describes how you feel about buying XX or asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?
J'ai traduit ainsi :Sur la base des informations précédentes, quelle affirmation ci-dessous correspondrait le mieux à votre décision d'acheter le produit XX ou quel serait votre sentiment avant de demander à la personne chargée de faire les courses au sein de votre foyer d'aller acheter le produit ?
Je trouve vraiment difficile de rendre l'idée en français...
Merci d'avance de vos lumières !
Bonjour à tous. Il s'agit d'un questionnaire marketing pour une boisson pétillante.
J'en perds un peu mon latin et mon français.
Based on the information above, which statement below best describes how you feel about buying XX or asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?
J'ai traduit ainsi :Sur la base des informations précédentes, quelle affirmation ci-dessous correspondrait le mieux à votre décision d'acheter le produit XX ou quel serait votre sentiment avant de demander à la personne chargée de faire les courses au sein de votre foyer d'aller acheter le produit ?
Je trouve vraiment difficile de rendre l'idée en français...
Merci d'avance de vos lumières !
Change log
Jul 18, 2017 14:17: writeaway changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Marketing"
Jul 18, 2017 14:56: Victoria Britten changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:
Non-PRO (3): AllegroTrans, Tony M, Victoria Britten
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Proposed translations
7 mins
STEPHANIE Taif
France
France
Native in French
Specializes in field
France
15 years of experience: Business/IT
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French
Related KudoZ points
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20
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votre intention de demander à quelqu’un de votre foyer de l’acheter pour vous
Sans connaître les différentes réponses possibles, voilà ce qui me vient à l’esprit :
Sur la base des informations précédentes, parmi les affirmations ci-dessous, laquelle correspond le mieux à votre intention d’achat du produit XX ou votre intention de demander à quelqu’un de votre foyer de l’acheter pour vous ?
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De rien Virginie!
Sur la base des informations précédentes, parmi les affirmations ci-dessous, laquelle correspond le mieux à votre intention d’achat du produit XX ou votre intention de demander à quelqu’un de votre foyer de l’acheter pour vous ?
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De rien Virginie!
Note from asker:
| Merci Stéphanie, je trouve cela très bien! |
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: not simply "quelqu'un" but "celui qui fait les acahts de famille"
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yes true!! Then "la personne en charge des courses" would do
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Tony M
: CERTAINLY not just "qq'un"! This specificaly means "the (specific) person who makes the decisions (if that's not yourself)"; this terminology is very specific to the field, it's vital to get it right.
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yes you're right!
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Daryo
: not quite - the way this question is asked implies that a there is one member of the household that usually does the shopping for everyone in the household, not "just ask anyone"
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true too
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writeaway
1 day 7 hrs
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Rachel Fell
1 day 7 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "merci Stéphanie"
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17 mins
demander à la person responsable pour les achats au sein de votre foyer de l'acheter de votre part ?
This is the term regularly used by one of the big market research companies I work for.
Please note that your proposed translation doesn't accurately reflect the sense of the source text:
"Based on the information above, which statement below best describes how you feel about buying XX or asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?"
« Sur la base des informations précédentes, quelle affirmation ci-dessous correspondrait le mieux à votre décision d'acheter le produit XX ou quel serait votre sentiment avant de demander à la personne chargée de faire les courses au sein de votre foyer d'aller acheter le produit ? »
The point being that 'how you feel about' refers to BOTH 'buying' AND 'asking...to buy' — whereas the way you have placed 'votre sentiment' makes it refer ONLY to the 'asking...to buy' part.
I personalyl wouldn't use 'sentiment' — possibly 'ressenti'? But of course it depends a bit exactly what the following statements actually are?
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Of course it's not a « Responsable achats » as it might be in a corporate context; but there's no reason why there can't be a 'personne (qui est) responsable des achats dans un foyer'
I haven't made it up, this is a standard term used in market research surveys — though almost certainly translated from US English... maybe someone should tell them their translator has been getting it wrong all this time!
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Note added at 2 heures (2017-07-18 16:43:55 GMT)
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It very much depends on what sort of 'product' is involved here? If it is asome kind of food product or household /toiletry, then 'courses' may be acceptable; but very often, this sort of question is used to find out if you are planning on buying a new washing-machine for example — and I really think that kind of 'shopping' decision-making goes well beyond what might be qualified as 'aller faire des courses'!
Please note that your proposed translation doesn't accurately reflect the sense of the source text:
"Based on the information above, which statement below best describes how you feel about buying XX or asking the shopper in your household to buy it for you?"
« Sur la base des informations précédentes, quelle affirmation ci-dessous correspondrait le mieux à votre décision d'acheter le produit XX ou quel serait votre sentiment avant de demander à la personne chargée de faire les courses au sein de votre foyer d'aller acheter le produit ? »
The point being that 'how you feel about' refers to BOTH 'buying' AND 'asking...to buy' — whereas the way you have placed 'votre sentiment' makes it refer ONLY to the 'asking...to buy' part.
I personalyl wouldn't use 'sentiment' — possibly 'ressenti'? But of course it depends a bit exactly what the following statements actually are?
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Note added at 1 heure (2017-07-18 15:28:10 GMT)
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Of course it's not a « Responsable achats » as it might be in a corporate context; but there's no reason why there can't be a 'personne (qui est) responsable des achats dans un foyer'
I haven't made it up, this is a standard term used in market research surveys — though almost certainly translated from US English... maybe someone should tell them their translator has been getting it wrong all this time!
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Note added at 2 heures (2017-07-18 16:43:55 GMT)
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It very much depends on what sort of 'product' is involved here? If it is asome kind of food product or household /toiletry, then 'courses' may be acceptable; but very often, this sort of question is used to find out if you are planning on buying a new washing-machine for example — and I really think that kind of 'shopping' decision-making goes well beyond what might be qualified as 'aller faire des courses'!
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: I prefer Polyglot's 'celui/celle qui se charge des courses' instead of 'responsable'. Surely it's not always the same person doing the shopping? Responsable sounds so official /it may be their speak but like EU texts, it depends who wrote the English
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Thanks, W/A! Well, this is the 'official' market research term used in such questions by one of the world's biggest companies, so... Of course — as I was at pains to point out!
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david henrion
: il n'y a pas dans un foyer une personne "responsable des achats", ce vocabulaire est à réserver à l'entreprise.
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This IS the official term used by one of the world's biggest market research companies; maybe their translator got it wrong, but it IS widely used...
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mchd
: bien d'accord avec David, c'est un questionnaire destiné aux foyers, et non pas aux entreprises ! Aimer ou ne pas aimer n'est pas un argument ! C'est un questionnaire destiné aux ménages, analysez le contexte !
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Nonetheless, this IS one expression commonly found, whether you like it or not! / Yes, and I am very familiar with the type of language used in surveys, which is often surprisingly (overly) formal and pompous; I am working with these things every day!
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Daryo
: as far as I understand this ST, this person is just doing the buying, not the person deciding what to buy - so not really "responsable des achats"// no objections at all to this term being used for households, simply not sure it really applies to this ST.
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From my experience of this very specific field, I don't believe that is in fact the case.
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GILLES MEUNIER
: responsable des achats en français, pas pour les achats et à la personne, person c'est l'anglais
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Discussion
So I read over once again and opted for this final version :
Parmi les affirmations précédentes, laquelle correspondrait le mieux à votre intention d’achat du produit XX ou votre intention de demander à celui/celle qui ira faire les courses pour votre foyer de (vous) l'acheter ?
@polyglot : I could give you 2 points and @ Stéphanie 2 points as well... Is it possible ?
"une boisson pétillante" might easily be the kind of product where one person wants it and another one is being dragged into paying for it.
But as you said, having the whole of the questionnaire available would make things clearer.
These concepts are very important in market research, knowing just which people need to be targeted by this or that campaign.
BUT that said, it does also very much depend on what sort of product we are talking about here!
so "la personne responsable des achats" is probably not the right nuance for this ST
a typical example for this distinction: the "pester power" of kids
Who is responsable for doing the shopping / taking purchasing decisions in your household:
Yourself?
Another person?
You and another person equally?
Hence when this question follows, it makes sense and does not make any comment about the "shared" nature of family decisions.
As ever, being familiar with the wider context is all-important when interpreting this kind of text...
Je trouve la réponse de Stéphanie plus pertinente