Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Chinese term or phrase:
立牌坊
English translation:
pretend to be a chaste widow
Added to glossary by
Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Jul 3, 2007 15:06
16 yrs ago
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Chinese term
立牌坊
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Chinese to English
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Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
Chinese Saying
The context: Dialog
A: 遇上既要当婊子又要{立牌坊}的当道小人,你能怎样?
B: 不能怎样,立个牌坊给他就是了,反正大家会知道他不配。
The question: {立牌坊}
I am wondering if there is a saying in English speaking culture which come close to this one of Chinese.
A: 遇上既要当婊子又要{立牌坊}的当道小人,你能怎样?
B: 不能怎样,立个牌坊给他就是了,反正大家会知道他不配。
The question: {立牌坊}
I am wondering if there is a saying in English speaking culture which come close to this one of Chinese.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 | chaste widow | karcsy |
5 +1 | boasting one's chastity | ZhiBing SUN |
3 | Keeping A Mistress and the Gentleman's Code | pkchan |
Change log
Jul 8, 2007 04:32: Wenjer Leuschel (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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chaste widow
遇上既要当婊子又要{立牌坊}的当道小人,你能怎样?
what would you do if you meet a vile person who
wants to be a prostitute yet pretends to be a chaste widow?
中国孔子论坛Furthermore, the government maintained a registry of both chaste widows and thrice-married women. The chaste widows received accolades from the government (Kendall and Peterson 1983, 35), while the thrice-married women received nothing ...
www.chinakongzi.com/kzubb/showtopic.asp?topicid=1187 - 34k - 网页快照 - 类似网页
female medical workers in ancient china该网站可能含有恶意软件,有可能会危害您的电脑。
I am a widow. How can I let males see me," she replied. Finally she died of the illness . 9 Another example was a certain Madam Hu, who was paised as a "chaste widow." Sticken with disease and when her family was about to send for a ...
www.cintcm.com/e_cintcm/e_forum/female medical workers in a... - 类似网页
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Note added at 1小时 (2007-07-03 16:58:40 GMT)
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立牌坊 = 贞节妇人
there's no need not say 'erect/construct a chaste monumental arch'
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Note added at 2小时 (2007-07-03 17:52:09 GMT)
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孔子本来就是官家子弟, 会创造出的思想,出发点在于维护权威并延伸到社会的秩序到家庭的伦理。他的思想伴随了我们从古到今,他的存在必有它的价值,要不然老早就被淘汰了。但再想想一个三千多年前的人的思想虽有许多不足之处,但也有许多可取之处,特别是‘中庸之道’。
balancing everything to their optimum state, such as balancing between analysis & decisiveness, hah,sounds familiar?
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Note added at 7小时 (2007-07-03 22:27:58 GMT)
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oops, I concentrated too much on the '立牌坊‘.
verbatim and gender neutral translation would be:
what would you do if you meet a cad in power who wants to be a prostitute yet pretends to be a chaste person?
true sense of the sentence should be:
what would you do if you meet a double faced cad who is in power?
要当婊子又要立牌坊的当道小人 = 双面小人 = double faced cad
what would you do if you meet a vile person who
wants to be a prostitute yet pretends to be a chaste widow?
中国孔子论坛Furthermore, the government maintained a registry of both chaste widows and thrice-married women. The chaste widows received accolades from the government (Kendall and Peterson 1983, 35), while the thrice-married women received nothing ...
www.chinakongzi.com/kzubb/showtopic.asp?topicid=1187 - 34k - 网页快照 - 类似网页
female medical workers in ancient china该网站可能含有恶意软件,有可能会危害您的电脑。
I am a widow. How can I let males see me," she replied. Finally she died of the illness . 9 Another example was a certain Madam Hu, who was paised as a "chaste widow." Sticken with disease and when her family was about to send for a ...
www.cintcm.com/e_cintcm/e_forum/female medical workers in a... - 类似网页
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Note added at 1小时 (2007-07-03 16:58:40 GMT)
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立牌坊 = 贞节妇人
there's no need not say 'erect/construct a chaste monumental arch'
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Note added at 2小时 (2007-07-03 17:52:09 GMT)
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孔子本来就是官家子弟, 会创造出的思想,出发点在于维护权威并延伸到社会的秩序到家庭的伦理。他的思想伴随了我们从古到今,他的存在必有它的价值,要不然老早就被淘汰了。但再想想一个三千多年前的人的思想虽有许多不足之处,但也有许多可取之处,特别是‘中庸之道’。
balancing everything to their optimum state, such as balancing between analysis & decisiveness, hah,sounds familiar?
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Note added at 7小时 (2007-07-03 22:27:58 GMT)
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oops, I concentrated too much on the '立牌坊‘.
verbatim and gender neutral translation would be:
what would you do if you meet a cad in power who wants to be a prostitute yet pretends to be a chaste person?
true sense of the sentence should be:
what would you do if you meet a double faced cad who is in power?
要当婊子又要立牌坊的当道小人 = 双面小人 = double faced cad
Note from asker:
Wow! I would call that a fundamentalistic interpretation of Confucianism. Nice way to keep law and order, isn't it? |
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you! I guess, this is the closest one. I was waiting for some more interesting suggestions, but got reminded by a "haste note" to choose a "chaste widow.""
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boasting one's chastity
又想当婊子,又想立牌坊.
Indulge oneself in prostitution while boasting one's chastity.
这是标准的英文翻译。详见
http://ks.cn.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1407052501086
Indulge oneself in prostitution while boasting one's chastity.
这是标准的英文翻译。详见
http://ks.cn.yahoo.com/question/?qid=1407052501086
Example sentence:
又想当婊子,又想立牌坊.
Indulge oneself in prostitution while boasting one's chastity.
Note from asker:
牌坊一般都是由别人立的,婊子不希望人家知道她是婊子,所以装模作样,让别人帮她立牌坊。主动的 boast 似乎不太对口。 |
1 hr
Keeping A Mistress and the Gentleman's Code
or:You cannot RUN with the hare and hunt with the hounds
POW (90), Happy weekend! Friday, 13th!- [ Translate this page ]让他顺杆儿爬,终要摔死他。 4. You cannot RUN with the hare and hunt with the hounds. 当婊子不能立牌坊,逛窑子哪能去扫黄? 5. SAFE bind, safe find. ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-03 16:28:56 GMT)
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other alternatives:
you can't have your cake and eat it
you can't have it both ways
you can't have both the butter and the butter money
POW (90), Happy weekend! Friday, 13th!- [ Translate this page ]让他顺杆儿爬,终要摔死他。 4. You cannot RUN with the hare and hunt with the hounds. 当婊子不能立牌坊,逛窑子哪能去扫黄? 5. SAFE bind, safe find. ...
www.bilinguist.com/data/hy00/messages/24026.html - 28k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-03 16:28:56 GMT)
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other alternatives:
you can't have your cake and eat it
you can't have it both ways
you can't have both the butter and the butter money
Note from asker:
Thanks, PK! Hahaha, do you really believe that there aren't people who have the butter and keep the butter money as well? How about an Arch of Chastity for Mata Hari? |
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