Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Both speech and silence transgress

Japanese translation:

不將語黙對

Added to glossary by Yuriko Daikoku
Nov 2, 2005 16:29
18 yrs ago
English term

Both speech and silence transgress

English to Japanese Art/Literary Philosophy Zen
“Both speech and silence transgress.”
Zen Saying
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Just wonder if anyone knows the source of this in Japanese?
I have no information on who said this or whatsoever.
Many thanks for your help in advance,
Yuriko

Proposed translations

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19 hrs
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不將語黙對

無門関だとすると、第三十六則のこれでしょうか。
五祖曰、路逢達道人、不將語黙對。


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Note added at 19 hrs 27 mins (2005-11-03 11:57:38 GMT)
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第36則です。
Peer comment(s):

agree Thomas Bergman : Yeah, that sounds about right
5 hrs
Thank you Thomas-san, your accurate searching did lead my result.
agree sumc : 「路に達道の人に逢はば、語黙を将て対せざれ、且つ道へ、甚麼を将てか対せん。」 http://www.fsinet.or.jp/‾tozanji/teisyou/mumonkan/mumon36.htm もっと簡単な説明は http://www.geocities.jp/tentomsi2004/Q236.htm またはhttp://www2.tontonme.ne.jp/users/sokui/re
5 hrs
sumcさん、ありがとうございます。
agree Will Matter
2 days 6 hrs
willmatterさん、ありがとうございます。
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "ありがとうございます。助かりました。+Many thanks to Thomas-san"
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R. H. Blyth, 'Zen and Zen Classics', Vol. IV: Mumonkan, The Hokuseido Press, 1966, p. 175.

I couldn't find out anything about who said it, but I found the english book that the quote is taken from. Maybe if you can dig that up it'll help?

14. R. H. Blyth, 'Zen and Zen Classics', Vol. IV: Mumonkan, The Hokuseido Press, 1966, p. 175.

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Note added at 1 hr 9 mins (2005-11-02 17:39:13 GMT)
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I found something that might be relevant online, but it 文字化け'd, so I'll try and dig up the physical book.
Peer comment(s):

agree Mitsuko : 一は多を知り、多は一を知るかもしれません。
12 hrs
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