Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

4-Ball Weld, ASTM D2596

Romanian translation:

ASTM D2596 -(Rezistenta la presiuni ridicate pe) masina cu patru bile -sarcina de sudura

Added to glossary by bobe
Aug 24, 2007 18:48
16 yrs ago
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English term

4-Ball Weld, ASTM D2596

English to Romanian Science Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng motor oils and greases
Apare ca atare pe lista de proprietăţi tehnice a unei unsori (mai exact este unul din testele americane standardizate de rezistenţă a uleiurilor/unsorilor)
(vezi: http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/lubricants/pdf/G...

Care ar fi echivalentul în româneşte? Se referă ,cred, la rezistenţa sudurii bilelor/rulmentului/angrenajului ??

Nu reusesc să gasesc o listă echivalentă in româneşte cu aceste specificaţii tehnice pentru uleiuri.

Vă mulţumesc pentru idei.
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Aug 25, 2007 20:18: bobe changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/7809">bobe's</a> old entry - "4-Ball Weld, ASTM D2596"" to ""ASTM D2596 -Rezistenta la presiuni ridicate pe masina cu patru bile -sarcina de sudura ""

Discussion

bobe (asker) Aug 25, 2007:
Anca draga, please don't take it personally. Am lamurit termenul tocmai din cauza discutiei celor doua sugestii. Am inteles in acest caz ca este vorba de rezulatul testului unsorii la aceasta incercare standard ASTM D2596 (sarcina de sudare pe masina cu patru bile). In lista mea de specificatii a unsorii mai apar inca doua teste cu standardizarea: ASTM D2509 Timken OK Load, Kg. (asta este probabil cel la care te referi tu) si apoi, ASTM D2266, 4-Ball Wear, Scar, mm (asta este probabil testul pentru pata de uzura). Deci ratiunea acestui cod ASTM (American Standard for Testing of Materials) este tocmai sa diferentieze testele respective. Sincere multumiri si tie si Antoniei pentru efortul si timpul vostru.
Anca Nitu Aug 25, 2007:
nu mai stau sa caut dar testul in mod evident nu e pentru vreuna din proprietatile sudurii ci a lubrifiantului
Anca Nitu Aug 25, 2007:
http://www.noria.com/dictionary/default.asp?definitionsearch...
Measure of the extreme-pressure properties of a lubricating oil. The test utilizes a Timken machine, which consists of a stationary block pushed upward, by means of a lever arm system, against the rotating outer race of a roller bearing, which is lubricated by the product under test. The test continues under increasing load (pressure) until a measurable wear scar is formed on the block.
Anca Nitu Aug 25, 2007:
to whom it may concern : Timken Test:
http://www.swri.org/4org/d08/ShearTst/timken.pdf

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ASTM D2596 -Rezistenta la presiuni ridicate pe masina cu patru bile -sarcina de sudura

Charge de soudure, machine à quatre billes, kg ASTM D2596
http://www.petro-canada.com/pdfs/IM8025f.pdf

Rezistenta la presiuni ridicate pe masina cu 4 bile:
-sarcina la care se produce sudura, N,min.
-diametrul petei de uzura (1500 N, 1minut, 1500 rpm), mm, max.

http://www.arcommat.ro/rom/produse/domindust_neemuls.html

Rezistenta pe masina cu 4 bile a emulsiei 5% apa

-incarcarea la care nu se produce sudura, N

-sarcina la care se produce sudura, N


http://portfolio.vanillawebs.com/pristaoil/romanian/products...

Rezistenta la presiuni ridicate pe masina cu patru bile
- sarcina de sudura

http://www.irlu.ro/servicii5.htm


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Note added at 21 minute (2007-08-24 19:10:23 GMT)
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sau mai pe scurt

ASTM D2596 - Maşina cu patru bile, sarcina de sudură

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o mică explicaţie:
http://www.tribotech.net/fourball.htm

sau (aici se aminteşte de standardul german, nu de cel american):

The Four-ball test rig measures the welding load and wear under punctual contact. The testing procedure is defined by DIN 51350.
The welding load describes the test energy under which the balls start to be welded together.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oks-german...

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Sunt două teste diferite, ambele urmăresc rezistenta la presiuni ridicate a lubrifianţilor, dar folosind sisteme diferite (instalaţia Timken, respectiv maşina cu 4 bile) . În cazul maşinii cu patru bile este vorba de sudura celor 4 bile în condiţiile în care lubrifiantul nu mai poate acţiona pentru a împiedica acest lucru.

1966 The Timken extreme pressure test machine, developed in the 1930s for evaluating the load carrying properties of greases, is used in the new ASTM D 2509, Method for Measurement of Load-Carrying Capacity of Lubricating Grease (Timken Method). The method for fluids, D 2782, Method for Measurement of Extreme-Pressure Properties of Lubricating Fluids (Timken Method), will issue in 1969.

1967 The first standard four-ball extreme pressure method, ASTM D 2596, Method for Measurement of Extreme-Pressure Properties of Lubricating Grease, is published to evaluate the extreme pressure properties of greases required for heavy duty applications. A similar method for fluid lubricants, D 2783, Method for Measurement of Extreme-Pressure Properties of Lubricating Fluids (Four-Ball Method), will be published in 1969.

In this paper, an organic compound containing a nitrogen element, Schiff base, is synthesised, and its tribological characteristics are evaluated by four-ball and Timken machines.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/11246970...

Friction and wear installation (Timken Type) for the study of friction and wear phenomena in friction and antifriction materials
Four ball machine for lubrificants performance testing

http://www.incas.ro/english/departments/materials_tribology....

Results of four-ball wear testing and Timken OK load tests showed that bismuth naphthenate is a more effectuve EP (Extreme pressure) additive in libricating oil than lead nephthenate when each was formulated with an active sulfur additive.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=801029

ASTM D2509 Measurement of Load-Carrying Capacity of Lubricating Grease (Timken Method) - Load Caring Capacity of Lubricating Greases (Timken Method)
ASTM D2596 Measurement of Extreme-Pressure Properties of Lubricating Grease (Four-Ball Method) -Four Ball EP Tesing for Greases


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Timken EP Test
Measure of the extreme-pressure properties of a lubricating oil. The test utilizes a Timken machine, which consists of a stationary block pushed upward, by means of a lever arm system, against the rotating outer race of a roller bearing, which is lubricated by the product under test. The test continues under increasing load (pressure) until a measurable wear scar is formed on the block.

http://www.noria.com/dictionary/default.asp?definitionsearch...

Weld point
The lowest applied load in kilograms at which the rotating ball in the Four Ball EP test either seizes and welds to the three stationary balls, or at which extreme scoring of the three balls results

http://www.noria.com/dictionary/default.asp?definitionsearch...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Anca Nitu : contextul se refera la lubrifianti si testarea lor - mai precis lubrifianti folositi in masinile din industria alimentara
2 hrs
În cazul maşinii cu patru bile este vorba de sudura celor 4 bile în condiţiile în care lubrifiantul nu mai poate acţiona pentru a împiedica acest lucru.
agree Cristian Nicolaescu
13 hrs
Mulţumesc mult!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Multumesc mult , Antonia."
3 hrs

test Timken pe masina cu 4 bile, astm d2596

Four-ball tester
Purpose
The methods in accordance with this standard are intended to determine the characteristic values of lubricants with additives which should allow high surface pressure in the mixed friction area between surfaces moved in relation to each other.
The method gives little correlation to the behaviour of the lubricants in real applications.

Brief description of the method
The lubricant is tested in a four-ball system, which consists of a rotating ball (running ball), which slides on three balls which are identical to it (stationary balls). The test loads may either be increased gradually until the four-ball system seizes up or the ball imprint diameters of the three stationary balls shall be measured with constant test load after a set test period.
http://www.rheinchemie.com/rc.nsf/id/Foutes_EN

se refera la un mod de testare a lubrifiantilor nu a sudurii- vezi in linkul pe care l-ai postat mai sus
uite pe romaneste
http://www.mannex.ro/alimentare/angrenaje.html
http://www.metabondro.eu/specificatie tehnica metabond vasel...

4. Metode de verificare
Produsul Metabond a fost examinat de institutul din Plafz al TUV Rheinland.
Pe baza rezultatelor obtinute in domeniul reducerii uzurii TUV a considerat produsul ca fiind pozitiv.
Metodele americane folosite de TUV:
ASTM D 2782 / Timken /
ASTM D 2783 / aparat cu 4 bile /

ASTM nu se traduce e marimea granulei
TImken se cheama testul si nu cred ca exista vreun echivalent in lb romana pt ca e originar in AMerica de Nord ( din cate stiu eu)

http://glenstone.sdsmt.edu/My-files/Labs/LECO-Quant-ASTME112...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASTM_International

Note from asker:
Anca draga, multumesc mult pentru efort si referintele ff. utile.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Antonia Toth : După câte am citit testul Timken determină "pata de uzură" şi condiţiile nu sunt aşa de "vitrege" încât să se producă sudura elementelor care se află în contact.
6 hrs
si care e obiectia la raspunsul meu? sau doriti numai sa aratati lumii ca sunteti contra mea in general ? daca da, nu merita osteneala, credeti-ma!
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