Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

órgano titular

English translation:

body responsible

Added to glossary by William Pairman
Mar 3, 2011 19:09
13 yrs ago
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Spanish term

órgano titular

Spanish to English Law/Patents Government / Politics eAdministration
From regional legislation in Spain defining eAdministration and specifically in this section, electronic offices

De esta forma, el art. X establece que este contenido mínimo debe incluir al menos, "a) Identificación de la sede, así como del órgano u órganos titulares y de los responsables de la gestión y de los servicios puestos a disposición en la misma y, en su caso, de las subsedes de ella derivadas. b) Información necesaria para la correcta utilización de la sede incluyendo el mapa de la sede electrónica o información equivalente, con especificación de la estructura de navegación y las distintas secciones disponibles, así como la relacionada con propiedad intelectual.

"la sede" is "la sede electrónica"

Discussion

Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
or controlling agent / agents?
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
How about: the controlling body???
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
desafortunadamente debo irme ahora. Mucha suerte, William! It's all yours FVS...
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
No, it's much more than responsible: titular means they have rights and privileges thereof. This concept must be expressed and clear. It is common to all connotations of titular: titular del permiso de conducir / titular del market stand; titular de...titular de acciones / particiapciones
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
meaning concept of incumbent body...
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
just had new thoughts (on same line as yours), but first I'll respond: ownership and ownership meant as entitlement (or at least tried to express so); and yes titular is that and more; Now on my second thoughts and not in disagreement with you: after reading entries and answers and further thought, and understanding that ownership in this case might be incorrect y bastante feo, not to mention that William doesn't like the use of it, plus FVS comments on my entries, I now think that it should be: INCUMBENT body/s = governing body as Adriana suggested?
William Pairman (asker) Mar 4, 2011:
I think you're bang on the money FVS Clearly ownership is not an issue here - this is the public administration after all

Suggest as answer please!
FVS (X) Mar 4, 2011:
After some reflection I think I would translate this as body responsible

Thus,
así como del órgano u órganos titulares y de los responsables de la gestión y de los servicios=
as well as the body or bodies with responsibility for, and those in charge of........
FVS (X) Mar 4, 2011:
None of these would translate as ownership Órganos titulares de la potestad reglamentaria.

la función de los órganos titulares del Poder Público en Madrid

En la Roma de la República los órganos titulares del poder político son tres: las magistraturas, el comido y el Senado.

En cualquier momento el órgano titular de la competencia ...

A solicitud del órgano titular de la autorización, la Dirección de ...

En estos supuestos, el órgano titular de la competencia la retiene, sin perjuicio de la encomienda a un tercero del ejercicio de alguna de las funciones ...
FVS (X) Mar 4, 2011:
Cristina Why do you go on about titular being ownership all the time? It quite clearly has meanings which are quite inconsistent with ownership.
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
FVS: yes; she is the incumbent / she is entitled to the post and benefits thereof until...
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
...a) Identification of headquarters / seat, ident of ownership and of management as well as of the services afforded to the same, and of any subsidiaries thereof
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
titular: that is the owner of / has rights; et al
also: el titular del puesto = the incumbent
Cristina Talavera Mar 4, 2011:
órgano titular = ownership
FVS (X) Mar 3, 2011:
William Yes, it would sound right, but IS it right?? I suspect so but am by no means sure. Never seen this meaning before. I simply looked up the word titular.
William Pairman (asker) Mar 3, 2011:
That could work Post as an answer FVS
FVS (X) Mar 3, 2011:
On looking it up (groan) I discover that titular also means 'official' so here it probably means official body or something akin.

That would be the big Collins Span-Eng. A meaning I had never realized, and used as an adjective.
William Pairman (asker) Mar 3, 2011:
Thanks Liz Its hard to see who is owning what here. It concerns the idea of an "electronic office" for bureaucratic Public Administration procedures, Spanish law has now established this as a right - ie you supposedly have the right to demmand that your local council or whoever allows you to renew your property tax or what have you on line

Proposed translations

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titular agency

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books.google.com/books?isbn=0804711933...
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www.shoutingatco.ws/blog/2011/02/.../tv-review-the-model-ag... - Cached
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www.slantmagazine.com/tv/review/the-no-1-ladies...agency...... - Cached
Beverly Hills, 90210 franchise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe series followed the lives of Hillary and several of the disparate, ambitious models in the titular agency—women whom Hillary sometimes felt a maternal ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills,_90210_franchise - Cached - Similar

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Saludos,
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1 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I actually used FVS's "body responsible" A point here as I felt your answer could also have worked Many thanks to everybody who answered or took part in the discussion"
10 mins

body/entity that holds the copyright

Como se está hablando de sistemas electrónicos, quizá se refieren a los titulares de los derechos.

Otra posibilidad sería "governing body", pero creo que no se trata de eso, sino de lo primero.
Peer comment(s):

neutral FVS (X) : Somehow I don't think so.
4 mins
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : Not really. It's a common organizational term.
3 hrs
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3 hrs

department/agency [of which it forms a part]

The "sede" is the office or location (eg Madrid), and the organo titular is the government department or agency of which it forms a part (eg the tax authority). You could leave out the bit in square brackets.
Peer comment(s):

agree Muriel Vasconcellos : Of course!
44 mins
agree Gabriella Bertelmann : agree
3 hrs
agree FVS (X)
18 hrs
neutral Cristina Talavera : it's not a question of being part of a dept / agency; it's more a question of who has ownership + it might not necessarily have to be governmental entitlement / ownership, stakeholder, etc
18 hrs
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Reference comments

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Reference:

"entidad titular" > owner
30 Mar 2010 ... 3 +4, owner, liz askew. 3 +2, parent body ... 3, titular body, John Marais ... It is a scientific titular organization attached to the ...
www.proz.com › KudoZ home › Spanish to English › Law (general) - Cached

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entidades titulares de ficheros de solvencia patrimonial positiva ...
4 posts - 3 authors - Last post: 15 Jul 2009
entidades titulares de ficheros de solvencia patrimonial positiva. English ...
www.proz.com › ... › Spanish to English › Finance (general) - Cached

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Note added at 15 mins (2011-03-03 19:25:29 GMT)
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strange as I am unable to find an Sp hits for "órganos titulares":)
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral FVS (X) : "órganos titulares" gave me "About 3,940 results (0.14 seconds)" in Google.
1 hr
send me some please
agree Cristina Talavera : sure, entidad titular = órgano titular = ownership thereof, et al
21 hrs
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